Friday, 06 October 2006

National DJ License Permit

Imagine the music collection agencies have introduced a DJ License to replace the Digital DJ Licence that offers the following for less than £240.00 per year:

  • DJ License permit with unique issue number
  • One National DJ database - promoting the registered DJ and accessable to the general public, venues, etc. Direct links to members own website.  Ex-directory listing option.
  • Exclusive Free download promo tracks direct from the record industry to subscribed members
  • Substantial discounts on music downloads and bulk music downloads
  • Potential for exclusive discounts on high street music purchases (vinyl, CD)
  • DJs allowed to back-up their music collection to digital and other formats under new license - no limits or restriction
  • New for old downloads - replace the worn vinyl and CDs with digital files from as little as £0.10p per track
  • Free Industry magazine every three months aimed at DJing, articles, product reviews, features, classifides, product discounts, members letters, professional advice from the HSE, cover disc and industry freebies, etc.
  • Optional Public Liability Insurance at a discounted rate of £25 for £10,000,000 PLI cover for DJs underwritten by same insurer as the Musicians Union.

Imagine future extras including

  • industry backed education and training courses for registered DJs via learn direct and specialist set-up workshops
  • advice and support from music industry backed DJ Associations which are currently not supported
  • advice and support from music industry backed Online DJ forums which are currently not supported
  • exclusive discounts from the motor trade and breakdown services
  • exclusive discounts on vehicle purchases and car finance -

If this was exclusively offered to you as a DJ, would you be satisfied or honestly unhappy?

The views expressed here reflect the views of the author posting and not of the blog author.

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Comments

And pigs might fly.
The mcps and the ppl are not going to offer anything like this.

Posted by: Steve | Friday, 14 April 2006

HAPPY

Posted by: THE STIG | Friday, 14 April 2006

happy

Posted by: Simon J | Friday, 14 April 2006

Happy. whats the catch?

Posted by: Dan | Friday, 14 April 2006

The catch is that its all imagined at £240! :)

Would still be satisfied.

Posted by: Simon J | Friday, 14 April 2006

Yes

Posted by: Dan | Friday, 14 April 2006

if available then yes, very happy. what sort of courses would be available?

Posted by: SJJ | Saturday, 15 April 2006

I would love something like this! Pity!

Posted by: Killer DJ | Saturday, 15 April 2006

If it was just one license than I would be very happy, but I tend to agree that it will never happen.

Posted by: CT | Saturday, 15 April 2006

"If this was exclusively offered to you as a DJ, would you be satisfied or unhappy?"

satisfied!

Posted by: mr t | Saturday, 15 April 2006

Dont need the insurance. happy

Posted by: dj jem | Sunday, 16 April 2006

satisfied

Posted by: sam | Sunday, 16 April 2006

ditto the above. happy!

Posted by: scotty boy | Sunday, 16 April 2006

SLOW DOWN! THERE MUST BE A CATCH!? IT ALL SOUNDS GREAT NOW BUT IF INTRODUCED WHAT WOULD THE COST REALLY BE? £400? £500? £600?

IM ALL FOR DJ BENEFITS BUT THERE MUST BE A CON SOMEWHERE?

Posted by: CHRIS | Sunday, 16 April 2006

I see your point Chris but based on the 'imaginary' question, I would be satisfied. It's my guess that the number of DJs that are satisfied with the above can be used in argument for what DJs would prefer instead of the Digital DJ License? Anything introduced like the above instead of the digital license would be great for all DJs not just digial.

Posted by: chris r | Sunday, 16 April 2006

happy :0)

Posted by: kj | Monday, 17 April 2006

Never gonna happen!, the adminstration that would be required just for rolling out 2 of your ideals would need staff, staff cost money and require things like training, expense accounts, company cars and pensions non of which are going to be subsidised by the PPL without hitting the Dj hard in the wallet. If the PPL's latest license costs £230 just for a piece of paper, why would they charge similar for the same plus your extras, do they owe DJ's any favours?, since when did the ppl start representing the interests of DJ's? and when was the last time you heard of any official organisation doing something positive?. All your idea does is to bolster the belief that all DJ's carry out the function as a living and are made of money. Whoever wrote the above must be heavily sedated, I believe that the planet earth is nice at this time of year, try visiting it at some point.

Posted by: Diggity | Monday, 17 April 2006

why so negative diggity?
what matters is what we want as djs, not who is offering
what do you you want diggity?

Posted by: sam | Monday, 17 April 2006

I AGREE WITH DIGGITY. YOUR ALL FUCKING MAD! WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO BUY A DIGITAL DJ LICENSE OR THIS ONE?
I WORK DURING THE DAY AND EARN £200 FROM DJING 4 NIGHTS A WEEK IN A PUB. I OWN MY OWN GEAR, DOWNLOAD ALL MY MUSIC FOR FREE OR RIP MY FRIENDS CDS. I'VE NEVER BEEN ASKED FOR INSURANCE AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO ONE HAS EVER HAD AN ACCIDENT WITH A DJ OR BEEN PROSECUTED. THE ONLY DJS WHO ARE REALLY PROFESSIONAL ARE THE ONES EARNING MEGA DOSH LIKE TONG. GET REAL. FUCK THE PPL.

Posted by: chavy | Monday, 17 April 2006

Happy

Posted by: tony | Monday, 17 April 2006

HAPPY

Posted by: Phil | Monday, 17 April 2006

And I would pay more if it got rid of the cowboys.

Posted by: Phil | Monday, 17 April 2006

Said before I was happy. Couldn't give a toss who ran the show. I want to see benefits. A clever question! Make the PPL think!
If the PPL do read blogs: We all want benefits, but most of all the majority of DJs just want to DJ. Your Digital DJ License does not work. The idea above would be a big hint in what DJs might be happy to pay for a license but it would have to cover all DJs not a minority and offer serious benefits. Your current license fee is OTT in price for what it offers.

Posted by: Killer DJ | Monday, 17 April 2006

If it happened I would be satisfied.

Posted by: Dave D | Tuesday, 18 April 2006

I've read all the comments and would agree that DJs need something in return for what they are paying for. This idea is not a bad start. SATISFIED

Posted by: OT DJ | Tuesday, 18 April 2006

I personally don't record music but I wouldn't mind the purchase discounts. I may record in the future so I want to be legal but if I can't be bothered then the New for Old idea is there. If this national DJ license allowed for all this then I can see good potential. Don't need my address details splashed across a website but there are guys I know who would love the free advertising, so the ex directory idea is cool!
I would be satisfied!

Posted by: miss p | Tuesday, 18 April 2006

This is not a new idea, but now would be the right time to introduce it so i'll back it! :) I think there should be more benefits! Not quite satisfied but happy!

Posted by: Kammo | Tuesday, 18 April 2006

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The mcps and the ppl are not going to offer anything like this.
Posted by: Steve | Friday, 14 April 2006

I agree.

Posted by: ian | Tuesday, 18 April 2006

When you look up the word betterment - the definition states a change that improves something, especially somebody’s financial or social condition.
I believe that such a license for DJs will add betterment to the license holder as well as the industry.

The UK record industry, the third largest in the world, succeeds or fails on its ability to invest in new talent and then recoup that investment by selling sound recordings.

The UK record industry - which invests more in new British musical talent than any other - has less time to earn from its work than other UK creative industries - recording copyright suffers from unfair discrimination at the hands of copyright law.

The UK record industry has a rich heritage. With UK artists such as The Beatles and the Rolling Stones gaining international acclaim in the 1960s, the UK record industry established itself as a world beater and has been there ever since.

The UK record industry invests about 13% of its revenues in developing new artists. A weaker UK record industry means less investment in new British artists, and for that investment needs to continue.

Artists like Razorlight, Keane and Franz Ferdinand to name but a few have now broken through because UK record companies have signed them, invested in them and promoted them. This is only possible because the UK record industry is able to re-invest the proceeds from sales in new artists.

In today's marketplace, as returns on recorded music sales become ever smaller, it becomes ever more crucial that the recorded music industry can recoup its investment in new music.

Everyone needs to play their part.

Posted by: pj | Tuesday, 18 April 2006

When I first read the suggestion of £240 I immediately thought NO! NOT AGAIN! The last idea PPL had was awful!
But if they offer something like this ;)

Posted by: laserdj | Wednesday, 19 April 2006

I will not buy the Digital DJ License and this idea sounds too good to be true. Public Liability at £25?
It will never happen.

Posted by: crawler | Wednesday, 19 April 2006

I'll buy the PLI if cheaper than £50!
Sounds like a good idea. Is it for Christmas?

Posted by: Mr Mobile | Wednesday, 19 April 2006

MCPS and PPL are too greedy. They do not understand the word parity. They are just too greedy and each will want £200+

Posted by: Mr Mobile | Wednesday, 19 April 2006

I'd pay up to £300 a year for all the above benefits because long term I'm saving money, especially on downloading music and public liability, my disco service is advertised on a website and I get a dedicated mag which I suppose will be heavily targeting the reader, discounts on gear, hire, as well as features etc. Would be nice to see suggested benefits for DJs on vehicles too including insurance and breakdown. Therefore I'm on the cautious side of satisfied. But if the PPL and MCPS were going to add 50% to the fee then they can whistle.

Posted by: top mix dj | Wednesday, 19 April 2006

Good points made.
Satisfied.

Posted by: marc | Wednesday, 19 April 2006

I have a full time club residency. I don't copy music. I don't use forums, don't want to go to college or learn anything else because I'm too busy.

Discounts on vinyl and CDs and the new for old perhaps would be great. So would the promos but that's all I would want.

Posted by: bananaman | Wednesday, 19 April 2006

I want one!

Posted by: andre | Wednesday, 19 April 2006

quote:- what do you you want diggity?

how about for the industry to be left alone, and continue in the manner which it has done and evolved since the first dj played the first wax cylinder? if it ain't broke then whose business is it to come along and fix it?.

it appears to me that those believe that the above is really going to happen are the same people who still think that if they whinge loud enough, petrol will drop to £1 a gallon.

Downloads for 10p! - come on!, hellooooo, helloooo reality check!, Itunes and Tescos (and Walmart in the US) can't manage to get anywhere close to that price with millions of customers, even DJITM has had to start charging for its previously free service, so a few hundred dj's are going to get new for old downloads for 10p are they? and bulk discounts of downloads?. Yeah right.

Posted by: diggity | Thursday, 20 April 2006

has any of this been put forward to the ppl yet and what was their reaction? we could all write our own ideas for what we want this license to include on our blogs but it doesn't mean that the ppl will be reading it or taking any notice neither does it mean that they will include the wishes of the actual dj. the PPL have the backing of law and that means that they can pretty well much do as they please, whether or not it makes them popular

I don't see any of these ideas being discussed by the nadj or on the digital dj license site so i reckon this means that the above is wishful thinking and a pipe dream. At this stage, keep feet firmly planted on the floor, and lets stay realistic

Posted by: bibbitybob roadshow | Thursday, 20 April 2006

For a totally out of this world reply, I think there are far more DJs in the UK than a few hundred that download diggity! If ppl have the power of law then why should they just aim at digital file users? Make ALL DJs have a license to DJ, get rid of the deadwood and piss takers. The reason the nadj won't consider any of the above ideas is because they are keen on selling the digital license, not stopping it. I spoke to a few nadj members who told me how much the nadj have done to stop the license. Bottom line, fuck all! A waste of money 'pipe dream' joining them wasn't it? And that is 100% reality. By acknowledging the fact that the above is wishful thinking tells me that somebody wishes they had thought of it first! LOL!

Posted by: marc | Thursday, 20 April 2006

I'll have one if it comes out.

Posted by: Gee T | Thursday, 20 April 2006

Ditto

Posted by: FTL | Thursday, 20 April 2006

When all the girlies have stopped waving their tampons in the air....

I think the question was simple enough:

"Imagine the authorities have introduced a DJ License to replace the Digital DJ License that offers the following for £240.00 per year...If this was exclusively offered to you as a DJ, would you be satisfied or unhappy?"

If we don't ask for what we want, we won't get. So yes, the above sounds reasonable although I would actually go further!

I'm sick to death of the £30, £40 and £50 "DJs" who have no public liability and couldn't give a damn. If they want to DJ as a hobby, do it for nothing.

When my boiler needs fixing, who do I call out? Mr Twat from the pub for £20 with no service experience, guarantees or 'paper trail' should things go wrong? Or a CORGI registered fitter?
Down to me isn't it. But I guess that the CORGI fitter has to pay a premium to be registered so why can't DJs who are serious about DJ'ing?

Look here: http://www.corgi-gas-safety.com/

Even plumbers have to register now. So what's the big deal in DJs registering?

Now can any one tell me who are the nadj? Who do they represent, etc?

Do they offer any of the benefits imagined above?

Posted by: tw | Friday, 21 April 2006

no idea?

Posted by: sam | Friday, 21 April 2006

diggity dog dont dig. no diggity

Posted by: skunkboy | Friday, 21 April 2006

ALL DJs ARE WHINGING WANKERS

Posted by: mp3 king | Friday, 21 April 2006

I say its a great idea!. There will be no more DJ's working cash in hand at the local pub, you can't deny working in a venue when the venue entertainment licence records that you did. No more benefit fraud and tax evasion, so can we please have the same measures introduced for Taxi Drivers, Waiting staff, factory workers and cockle pickers.

Posted by: chris | Friday, 21 April 2006

Anyone caught cheating the system such as benefit fraud deserves all they get. Same as the tax dodgers and the twats who undercut to deliver a top shite service. Don't want them in the disco business.

Posted by: si | Sunday, 23 April 2006

Taxi license is only 47p to make, if that.

Posted by: C D | Sunday, 23 April 2006

Unfortunately every venue I work requires my address and contact details (which is a bloody shame) but thats life girls. Get on with life!

Posted by: SUPER DJ | Sunday, 23 April 2006

I had a chat with some friends about this and all agreed that DJs need something in return for a DJ License.

In answer to a question about the NADJ, it stands for the NationalAssociation of DJs but its for mobile DJs and isn't very big or representative.
There are loads of small DJ associations around but they come and go.

Posted by: Simon J | Sunday, 23 April 2006

I had a chat with some friends about this and all agreed that DJs need something in return for a DJ License.

In answer to a question about the NADJ, it stands for the NationalAssociation of DJs but its for mobile DJs and isn't very big or representative.
There are loads of small DJ associations around but they come and go.

Posted by: Simon J | Sunday, 23 April 2006

In my opinion, the PPL have not got the brains to do this.
On the other hand, the MCPS might consider as they are more approachable!

If either are reading, I suggest they seriously think about the diverse comments now before they bodge another idea!

Posted by: baker | Wednesday, 26 April 2006

let them bodge it!

Who cares about djs anyway?

Posted by: topgezer | Wednesday, 26 April 2006

I think the idea is good.

Posted by: backspin | Thursday, 27 April 2006

Pigs might fly but the idea is great!

Posted by: TJR500 | Saturday, 29 April 2006

The problem I see with all this is not the setting up of the licence, but actual DJs.
All the DJs I know are using pseudo names and copy each others music. They all provide a good disco service and have fairly good set-ups but have only recently started purchasing liability insurance because the venues are requesting it. Most can earn between £150 to £300 a gig. None of them pay TAX. So why should they be interested in this?

Posted by: Wayne | Saturday, 29 April 2006

Not all venues request Public Liability but it is a legal requiement. Check the new license laws if unsure!

Posted by: Rob | Saturday, 29 April 2006

I'll have one!

Posted by: Yemmy | Monday, 01 May 2006

This is funny. PPL have been to court and will be wasting more of the money they raise for the record companies:

A Sussex host has urged others to follow his lead and dump the Phonographic Performance Ltd (PPL) licence after his bill increased by 480%.

Graham Martin of the Gate in Rusper, West Sussex, said he was “astounded” to discover the price of playing background music in his pub had risen from £100.62 a year to a staggering £482.78.

“It is absolutely ridiculous,” said Martin. “It is a totally un-realistic price to pay. More and more people should rebel and refuse to pay for the licence. I just won’t play CDs in the pub now, which is a shame for the customers, but we have to make a stand.”

The cost of the PPL has been readjusted in line with changes to copyright laws, and is now based on the square-footage of the pub. Some larger venues have reported an increase of 500% in costs.

However, trade associations including the British Beer & Pub Association, the Federation of Licensed Victuallers Associations and the British Hospitality Association have successfully campaigned to get a copyright tribunal to investigate the rises.

The deadline for submissions to the tribunal passed on Friday of last week.

A spokeswoman for the Patent Office said a decision would not be made “for a few months yet”.

FLVA chief executive Tony Payne said that until the tri-bunal reaches a decision, licen-

sees have no choice but to pay the new prices if they wish to play background music.

“If the tribunal rules in our favour, licensees may well be entitled to get some money back if they have already paid the increased price,” he said.

From: http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/

Posted by: godisadj | Tuesday, 02 May 2006

Proves that PPL are arseholes!
I think it's time to forget the current license, ignore it. Don't buy it. They can't prosecute a DJ in a private gig because it's private.
End of. Fuck ‘em!

Posted by: BC | Tuesday, 02 May 2006

--Quote--
the adminstration that would be required just for rolling out 2 of your ideals would need staff, staff cost money and require things like training, expense accounts, company cars and pensions
--Endquote--

What's the motivation here?

Posted by: Decks Demon | Saturday, 13 May 2006

If there was a >one licence covers all< then it would not be difficult to provide any extra benefits. The problem in getting the >one licence< together is up to ppl & mcps and only then if they are allowed to work together.
If you have X amount of djs on the books then cheap liability is easy. Advertising would pay for itself.

Posted by: mr p | Monday, 15 May 2006

Why is there a need for a dj licence?
I had a look at the licence working party forum. The amount of british djs interested in a dj licence is pretty dire. Yet the lwp are still pressing ahead to push for a dj licence?!
Me thinks this is part of a bigger agenda for the backers of the lwp.

Posted by: dj kane | Thursday, 18 May 2006

It is a clear fact that the digital license is an ill conceived and un-enforceable 'iffy' legal requirement. But I bet that the LWP will continue (according to their own forum) of working with the PPL and others in milking the very people who are not only totally against the idea of a DJ license but a minority of which are members of the NADJ.
Another reason why the LWP are probably pressing ahead with working with the PPL is to justify to their backers (NADJ) what association members are actually getting for their membership money. The short answer is shite. I understand that one mans quest to emulate another association (not in the UK) is the dream with branches all over the place.....lovely idea so far, but what else are the members getting? Until that dream is a step closer to reality, the NADJ is nothing more than an exercise to generate funds. All the time the association is supposed to be growing with branches springing up all over, who pays for the full-time needs of someone like the secretary? Oops, I got that wrong. The secretary gets nothing. Prat. So where do the funds go?! There is no pli included in the membership fee - thats extra!
Perhaps the fees go towards the lwp fight against the PPL? Nope.
Anyone fancy a trip to Las Vegas!

Posted by: kam man | Thursday, 18 May 2006

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